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Cake day: July 9th, 2023

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  • Very much the point. Building a boat is labor intensive. The materials are relatively inexpensive, compared to the time invested in building. The person selling that used Pocketship was likely the builder, and sees value in their time spent building it.

    That ~50 year old Westerly? That labor is long gone. The previous owner did invest his time in a partial refit, but relinquished his interest when he stopped paying storage fees and let a lien be placed on it. The club has no time invested, just the lost storage fees, but would rather minimize future loss; an abandoned boat takes up space that would otherwise be generating revenue for them. The club members (nearly all power boaters) see little value in the boat itself. Any revenue gained from scrapping it would likely exceed the cost to scrap the fiberglass hull (again, a labor intensive process).

    She really is a cool boat, though. I’m having a great time completing the refit, and I don’t see my labor invested as lost when I’m enjoying the process as much as I am.


  • Boats are weird. I’ve looked at buying kit from CLC to build a 15’ Pocketship: about $12,000 US. Buying a used one, a couple years old? $15k.

    Meanwhile, my local yacht club had a 26’ 1969 Westerly Centaur one step away from being crushed. Prior owner stopped paying storage fees and refused further contact, so the club put a lien on it. I picked it up cheap, $500. Nobody bothered cutting the lock off the companionway; it was chock full of tools and supplies the prior owner was using to refit it.

    I’ve dropped some cash into finishing the refit, but nowhere near what I would have spent on a 15’ Pocketship, and I’ve got a much more capable boat. There are deals out there.





  • You’re minimizing, plain and simple, by accentuating the positive aspects and softening the negative. Generally folk minimizing are in support of the thing they claim to be in opposition of.

    If that’s not your intent, then you really need to work on your communication skills.

    As for being triggered, you’re wrong. I believe you’re projecting. Might the cause be all those down votes your posts are receiving? Sure, they don’t mean much… Other than each vote meaning one person disagrees with you. Some folk can’t handle that well.


  • “I think that instead of it being the end we will simply learn that fully fascist world is actually quite good for business and nothing will change for vast majority of people. I’m not saying it will be good. It will be worse, just not as bad as you think.”

    My understanding of your statement: Fascism is good for business! Sure, it’s bad for some people, but most people won’t even notice it. There’s good things about fascism that you’re not aware of. It’s not all bad!

    Triggered? Hardly. I’m not about to let a comment like the above go untouched for the bullshit it is, however.

    You need to take a walk down to your local library and read some history books.