It was banned on Reddit because it is racist, hatefull and spread Conspiracies.
In my new community I expect the exclution of racist communities. It is easy now
with defederation. Nazis can do whatever they want on their instances, but the
instances I want to be part of should not amplify their shit and flush it into
our timelines. The instance-admin of !thedonald@sh.itjust.works
[/c/thedonald@sh.itjust.works] did not reply to my message. Big instances seem
not to defederate with them. The new TD may not be a success, the point is not
to give Nazis a platform like it is happening now. Fans of TD are racists. Where
are the instances that show face against racism? edit: to contact the admins:
@donut@sh.itjust.works @TheDude@sh.itjust.works @smorks@sh.itjust.works
It’s only a failure from certain perspectives. It happens to be my perspective too, but I can understand where others are coming from. I suppose this is one of them fancy irreconcilable differences thingies.
Personally, I suppose what mostly peeves me about these kinds of approaches is that they don’t really seem like solutions. Anyone from a no-no community is still free to employ the time-honored trolling tradition that is alt-juggling for harassment campaigns. Or, I assume that’s the case - if there’s one thing I really hope everyone at the table can still agree on, it’s that extreme privacy-invading measures for preventing alts is a step too far: there’s vulnerable voices across all parts of the opinion spectrum. Anyways, because alts exist, defederation measures always felt a bit performative from my perspective. But far be it from me to judge whatever helps people sleep at night. 🤣
I want to take the explanation that this is just a stopgap while moderation tooling develops at face value, but something tells me that isn’t the whole of the truth. In the end, I don’t think I’ll care all that much no matter how this shakes out; touching grass is really fantastic for helping maintain perspective. 👍
Will note, I have been publishing a few scripts into the admins chat on lemmy.ml, to assist with moderation, and catching some of these types of content too.
If- this de-federation movement doesn’t stop- what will eventually happen-
The large instances will end up defederating so much of the fediverse, that it makes more sense for them to just enable the “private” checkbox.
The end-result, is the failure of lemmy.
It’s only a failure from certain perspectives. It happens to be my perspective too, but I can understand where others are coming from. I suppose this is one of them fancy irreconcilable differences thingies.
Personally, I suppose what mostly peeves me about these kinds of approaches is that they don’t really seem like solutions. Anyone from a no-no community is still free to employ the time-honored trolling tradition that is alt-juggling for harassment campaigns. Or, I assume that’s the case - if there’s one thing I really hope everyone at the table can still agree on, it’s that extreme privacy-invading measures for preventing alts is a step too far: there’s vulnerable voices across all parts of the opinion spectrum. Anyways, because alts exist, defederation measures always felt a bit performative from my perspective. But far be it from me to judge whatever helps people sleep at night. 🤣
I want to take the explanation that this is just a stopgap while moderation tooling develops at face value, but something tells me that isn’t the whole of the truth. In the end, I don’t think I’ll care all that much no matter how this shakes out; touching grass is really fantastic for helping maintain perspective. 👍
Will note, I have been publishing a few scripts into the admins chat on lemmy.ml, to assist with moderation, and catching some of these types of content too.
Hopefully, we get some built in tools soon too.
Yeah man, unless we allow all manner of garbage it’ll fail. Yeah man.Totally.
THERE ARE WAYS TO BLOCK AND REMOVE CONTENT WITHOUT USING A GODDAMN SLEDGEHAMMER!!!
(as has already been noted NUMEROUS times in many threads)
YOU DON’T USE A STICK OF DYNAMITE TO REMOVE A DOOR.
FFS…