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If any of the mods of those subreddits are here, can you reconsider permanently locking?
The communities on those subs took years to develop, and you’re going to lose a lot of quality posts and discussion, since most people won’t just move seamlessly to a new website. Beyond that, there are years of high quality posts that members of that community have made, which may not be utterly lost, but they will certainly be more inaccessible.
I’m pissed at the Reddit admins too, but I don’t enjoy being forced onto some new site.
I’m writing with the context of the Twitter takeover by Elon Musk. I tried migrating to Mastodon (which seems analogous to Reddit/Lemmy). While I enjoyed not being on a site dominated by a person who, in addition to similar API price hikes, is racist and transphobic, many of the communities I value on Twitter never migrated. The result was that Mastodon was never an adequate replacement for the Twitter networks I was in. While I appreciate not giving money to a person I hate, I’m not eager to repeat that experience, especially because it seems like Reddit’s breaches are more of a pure business decision, which I find somewhat palatable, even if I’m unhappy to be forced off the apps I previously used.
I definitely am not opposed to the existence of this website, and in time I imagine it may develop its own unique community that some people value more than Reddit. However, I enjoy having the option of both sites available.
Part of the cost of having integrity in this case is needing to be patient. Reddit and Twitter didn’t build the communities you are lamenting overnight. It’s been two days for Reddit and less than a year for Twitter.
As for the content, nothing is stopping individuals from removing or exporting their comments. There are automated tools that will do this for you with very little effort. Reddit doesn’t own the content and neither do the mods.
FYI: Mastodon is also part of the Fediverse, so you may see content from there show up on Lemmy/Kbin, and vice versa.
As for the content, nothing is stopping individuals from removing or exporting their comments. There are automated tools that will do this for you with very little effort.
I’ve been thinking about this. Shouldn’t we be copying rising posts from Reddit to their respective communities on Lemmy? It would help bridge the content gap while the userbase is still growing, and it’s all public information.
It is a mixed bag. This can be useful in some cases, but it can also be very inorganic. There are tons of accounts on Mastodon which mirror content from Twitter. They might even be run by the Twitter user themselves, but if there is no interaction and the user doesn’t even check them, they just end up becoming noise.
Not all of them, since that would be a lot of server load, especially for the more image-heavy content. Maybe only the big/official posts, but people would be cross-linking those anyway.
Especially since a new social media network also means that they would have to learn how to use it all over again. People are used to Reddit, whereas Lemmy doesn’t have the creature comforts, like keyboard shortcuts, and RES that someone might be used to.
Migrating the community to the fediverse safeguards it from ever needing to migrate again, due to the decentralized structure where nobody controls the content. As long as it’s on a corporately owned service, profit incentives will harm content or even force a migration eventually. I think it’s a bit selfish to push that inconvenience onto the future users when we have an excellent opportunity to do it now, for all Reddit communities, and be done with it forever.
If any of the mods of those subreddits are here, can you reconsider permanently locking?
The communities on those subs took years to develop, and you’re going to lose a lot of quality posts and discussion, since most people won’t just move seamlessly to a new website. Beyond that, there are years of high quality posts that members of that community have made, which may not be utterly lost, but they will certainly be more inaccessible.
I’m pissed at the Reddit admins too, but I don’t enjoy being forced onto some new site.
I’m writing with the context of the Twitter takeover by Elon Musk. I tried migrating to Mastodon (which seems analogous to Reddit/Lemmy). While I enjoyed not being on a site dominated by a person who, in addition to similar API price hikes, is racist and transphobic, many of the communities I value on Twitter never migrated. The result was that Mastodon was never an adequate replacement for the Twitter networks I was in. While I appreciate not giving money to a person I hate, I’m not eager to repeat that experience, especially because it seems like Reddit’s breaches are more of a pure business decision, which I find somewhat palatable, even if I’m unhappy to be forced off the apps I previously used.
I definitely am not opposed to the existence of this website, and in time I imagine it may develop its own unique community that some people value more than Reddit. However, I enjoy having the option of both sites available.
Part of the cost of having integrity in this case is needing to be patient. Reddit and Twitter didn’t build the communities you are lamenting overnight. It’s been two days for Reddit and less than a year for Twitter.
As for the content, nothing is stopping individuals from removing or exporting their comments. There are automated tools that will do this for you with very little effort. Reddit doesn’t own the content and neither do the mods.
FYI: Mastodon is also part of the Fediverse, so you may see content from there show up on Lemmy/Kbin, and vice versa.
I’ve been thinking about this. Shouldn’t we be copying rising posts from Reddit to their respective communities on Lemmy? It would help bridge the content gap while the userbase is still growing, and it’s all public information.
It is a mixed bag. This can be useful in some cases, but it can also be very inorganic. There are tons of accounts on Mastodon which mirror content from Twitter. They might even be run by the Twitter user themselves, but if there is no interaction and the user doesn’t even check them, they just end up becoming noise.
Not all of them, since that would be a lot of server load, especially for the more image-heavy content. Maybe only the big/official posts, but people would be cross-linking those anyway.
I see where you are coming from, but personally I think we should just focus on building something new.
Especially since a new social media network also means that they would have to learn how to use it all over again. People are used to Reddit, whereas Lemmy doesn’t have the creature comforts, like keyboard shortcuts, and RES that someone might be used to.
That can be a pretty big obstacle.
Migrating the community to the fediverse safeguards it from ever needing to migrate again, due to the decentralized structure where nobody controls the content. As long as it’s on a corporately owned service, profit incentives will harm content or even force a migration eventually. I think it’s a bit selfish to push that inconvenience onto the future users when we have an excellent opportunity to do it now, for all Reddit communities, and be done with it forever.
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