• Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    I do not disagree with you on any of your points and it’s why I said that it doesn’t bother me as much when done to support misrepresented groups.

    Elon Musk isn’t a genius engineer that revolutionized anything. The brilliant minds at Tesla, women included did. The QB didn’t win the football game, the team did. The professor that has his or her name published and stuff named after him didn’t do all the work but it will usually be a white man unfortunately getting the credit which is garbage. Women and really anyone that isn’t a white male gets the short end of the stick.

    I was saying that their are more honest ways of presenting these women’s accomplishments rather than saying the web wouldn’t exist.

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      I was saying that their are more honest ways of presenting these women’s accomplishments rather than saying the web wouldn’t exist.

      Yes, I see your point. But despite me being a non native English speaker I figure (And I could be totally wrong) the “No web without women” can be interpreted in more than one way. It could also mean that in computer history women deserve to have their place be known to the public rather than forgotten or completely ignored or downplayed.

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        2 months ago

        I appreciate you sharing your interpretation and I agree. The sciences are even worse. If we hire a service we have my wife handle the first conversation while I stay in another room to ensure we don’t hire anyone that is openly misogynistic. I couldn’t even begin to count how many people we’ve turned away due to some variation of “can I talk to your husband”.

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      2 months ago

      The QB didn’t win the football game, the team did

      Except it’s almost universal that if your QB is shitty, your team is going nowhere. Can’t really say that about a having a single shitty running back or defensive lineman or whatever. The QB is the cornerstone of the team.

      Now baseball, however, that’s a sport in which your analogy works.

      Elon Musk isn’t a genius engineer that revolutionized anything. The brilliant minds at Tesla, women included did

      This is partially correct. You are right when you say Elon didn’t build Tesla all by himself. What he did though was have ambition and drive, and the money to seed fund it all. You can’t argue that without Elon Musk, and his drive, and his money, all those brilliant engineers at Tesla and SpaceX wouldn’t have built Tesla or SpaceX, they’d all have been working somewhere else.

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        2 months ago

        they’d all have been working somewhere else

        … Somewhere else possibly innovating even moreso than where they are…