Sunday’s successful blockade run could signal to international shippers that it’s reasonably safe to resume operations from Ukrainian ports.

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    Do you want nuclear war? Because nato and Russia engaging in direct combat is a path to that. I know some US citizens believe that the US has a nuclear missile intercept program so they won’t be affected, but no such system exists and is effective. If one warship fires on another it could lead to a chain of events that kills us all

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      Ww2 started because everyone bent over for the Germans and Japanese, which encouraged them.

      In this case, si vis pacem, para bellum.

      Either putin is sane and pulls back, or he’s insane and war was inevitable.

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        Ww2 started because everyone bent over for the Germans and Japanese, which encouraged them

        This is extremely simplified and comes off as silly. German appeasement was partially because France and Britain wanted Germany to attack the USSR, partially because they needed time to rearm. The US empire had a policy of provocation and containment of the Japanese empire.

        In the era of nuclear powers wars are done with non nuclear proxies to avoid a nuclear exchange.

        WW2 was pre-nuclear weapons. It turns out that changing material conditions makes old responses inappropriate.

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          The US empire had a policy of provocation and containment of the Japanese empire.

          We stopped selling them oil and steel, that’s it. After they butchered and butchered China including the rape of Nanking.

          Dude, look in the mirror, you need to live with that person and you’re excusing the crimes of Unit 731.

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            Dude, look in the mirror, you need to live with that person and you’re excusing the crimes of Unit 731.

            1. Not a dude, stop assuming everyone on the internet is.

            2. The pacific theater were two extremely violent empires duking it out.

            A) Do you think the US hasn’t done worse than the rape of Nanking and Unit 731?

            B) The US policy of containing Japan and economically provoking them does not mean that Japan was justified, it is simply the lead up to war between two incredibly violent factions competing over the same resources.

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              Unit 731?

              Show me something we did on that level, not acts of war like bombings, but actual monstrous cruelty on that level.

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                We’re still doing Guantanamo Bay. Abu graib is another one. If youre looking for direct comparisons. We also went around teaching puppet governments how to torture dissidents.

                Not to mention that we saved the Unit 731 scientists for their expertise.

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                    I have. The US is much better at keeping its prisoners alive so they can be tortured longer, but they have had longer to practice and Unit 731’s notes.

                    If youre not willing to accept that, we could also go with the tuskegee experiment, nuclear testing around indigenous communities and then studying the results or agent orange, killing millions of people over the last twenty years, special forces routinely kidnapping and raping to death minors around US military bases, whatever floats your boat

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          In the era of nuclear powers wars are done with non nuclear proxies to avoid a nuclear exchange.

          Great, then we’ll give Ukraine F-35s, F-22s, B-1Bs, swarms of Predators and Reapers and be on our way then.

          See how easy it is to proxy war Zelensky right into Moscow with a smile.

          There are no “Rules” to war, people do what they do and you have to be ready for it. Putin made a catastrophic error and we have to prepare for all eventualities, both good and bad, which means para bellum.

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            Great, then we’ll give Ukraine F-35s, F-22s, B-1Bs, swarms of Predators and Reapers and be on our way then.

            Sure, why not? And while we are at it why not some white elephants?

            Also predators and reapers are meant for asymmetric operations where your opponent doesn’t have AA or an airforce.

            If you want to give Ukraine an advantage and continue the bloody war just make more artillery shells.

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          We’re not over there, and the only help we’re giving is because we’re asked.

          People hate russia, they want our help killing russians. Help we are happy to provide.

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            Nobody hates Russia, except new watching normies. The US is trying to weaken Russia to rob and pillage it again.

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              No, we’re working with China to weaken Russia so we can divide it between us.

              That was the deal.

              China had s choice between a weak and stupid russia as an erratic ally, or a broken russia as a resource depot. They hesitated, but the war in Ukraine sold it.

              The irony is putin started the war partly to look strong in front of Xi so he wasn’t the junior partner in an alliance. The delicious, delicious irony.

              It’s pronounced knee-how btw, might want to practice.

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                  2nd strongest army on the world, now 2nd strongest army in Ukraine.

                  Delicious, delicious irony, the US finally got the one thing it needed to destroy Russia forever.

                  An excuse.

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              Have you spoken to actual Ukrainians?

              They hate Russians, they hate them like… everybody else really.

              Congratulations, Russia managed to do the impossible, unite the world.

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                Have you spoken to actual Ukrainians?

                Yes, actually. An ethnically russian ukrainian who fled before the war. Can you guess why she had reason to flee?

                Congratulations, Russia managed to do the impossible, unite the world.

                Strange how most of the world is either neutral or supportive of Russia then. NATO countries aren’t the entire world.